Well considering the factors that 4 teams have now pulled out, school has started and summer has nearly ended what do you guys reckon about SSDL? Should it carry on or should we end it... Another option is we can calculate top 4 teams who has the most wins and finish the league with semi finals --> finals --> to finalize a winner. Votes up

hence the reason i wanted sixteen teams before we started, which would of happened if given more time, hence the reason i wanted it to be a best of one format league,
hence the reason i put forward a proposal for ALL teams to have a mid a season transfer, not just a select few with "valid reasons'
hence the reason i wanted to set up time n date match booking system to avoid clans bickering over opponents being unreasonable with their time requests and availabilitys ect
hence the reason you shouldnt use the policy of first in first served, if your going to only take a limited amount of clans, they should be proven there active, check reffernces to find out if these clans are active how often they play and if they will fit into the league. Instead of gettin scrub clans such as nza to join and wanna ff there matches after 30mins coz there gettin pumped to hard and then pull out of the seaosn midway.

its unrealistic to run a online league for middle/lower class online clans with such a small number of teams and expect the league to run smoothly, from round one theres been nothing but issues with clans having difficulty to be prepared for there bo3 matches e.g using slutz coz they got no 5th, clans pulling out coz they cant keep an active 5, its unrealistic to run a 'Online league" and not allow a mid season transfer for ALL teams and expect that these teams players lifestyles/commitments will not change over such along time especially with no prizes involved.

Hopefully you'll learn from your mistakes, maybe next time and you'll take advice from someone who uses common sense instead of "running the league as you see fit"

i havent seen a online league run smoothly in a very long time and its becaue they simply neglect the needs of online clans. Running league always sounds like a good idea but its VERY time consuming and not near as easy as you think for anyone who's thinking about running one.

"hence the reason you shouldn't use the policy of first in first served, if your going to only take a limited amount of clans, they should be proven there active, check references to find out if these clans are active how often they play and if they will fit into the league. Instead of gettin scrub clans such as nza to join and wanna ff there matches after 30mins coz there gettin pumped to hard and then pull out of the seaosn midway"

Why single NZA out?

We wernt the worst clan.

We wern't the only ones FF'ing at 30 mins.

If you did everything you state above, you would only have 2 or 3 clans.

16 teams on West WITHOUT lower class clans, is impossible.

LAM had trouble with finding players to get online. FF withdrew. Both of which are obviously the best clans in the league yet they still fall into your criticism.

"Take advice from someone who can use common sense" LOL. Raise your hand if you have common sense! What makes you any more knowledgeable than anyone else?

Its all good in hindsight to criticize WW's decision, but the reality is (LIKE YOU HAVE STATED) that running a league is hard and its unrealistic to expect that peoples lifestyles won't change. So either way (from your points)it was destined to fail, so why did u try so hard to start it up?

Dude its US.west do u understand? where are you going to find 16 active teams on US.west man stop typing out essays as well k I dont think anyone reads them

Carrying on is fine imo, because the clans that are fighting for top 4 should get to play the remainder of their games for a fair chance.

Next time this league is run, by no means should only pro teams get to be involved etc, that wasn't the problem. A noob team that plays every single game and FFs when they realize they've lost is imo better than a pro team which can't get 5.

Also this league will more likely have more teams next time since a lot of teams didn't even know about this, for example I only found out about it through my friends in cota who originally asked me to sub for them.
Clans like few melb upc dbv ggt buny ctt ysok ect dth dstj tk emc cq ai I am assuming would be possibly interested in the next one if they knew about it.

Carry on, get the teams who haven't played each other to do so in 3-4 weeks and then do a quick finals.

ban wernsen, wernsen = bad

Not to be mean or sad or w/e but ppl are slacking off, i know ppl have other comps on n stuff but like half the clans just dont bother, it probly takes an hour or two prior to playing the first game to even start even with the arranged time.
I've had, on several occasions where one captain asks me to ref and i would say "ok are u guys ready?" and i would get a response saying "yes we're here" but wen i arrive to the channel all i see is some snowflakes falling down and 3 or 4 ppl. Thats the problem, no1 gives a negro about it. Clans like NZA/LppT just suddenly decide to pull out because the captains had a fit with another clan or not bother to check with his/her team whether they'll be able to play AFTER the holidays (even during the holidays, hint hint NZA). only clans ive seen near commited are bvd/cota/wdy/doa, having their teams on time and running things smoothly.









Dont actualy ban wernsen

Draw up a bracket bo1, with extreme seeding etc to determine a winner with all remaining teams entered.

easier just released all the remaining rounds at once and say all games played within 4 weeks etc. thats just imo

Sigh FFS.

I did check with all of them. And some of them said they would be away for maybe a week at different intervals during the holiday. Which should of meant at any time we had 7 players. But the fact is 4 of our players went inactive and never really came back (obviously not a big priority). IF they say they can do it. What else can I do?

Again why single us out when half the teams had pretty much the same problem? I only withdrew out of respect , because I didnt want opposition turning up and me having to say we cnt find a 5th; (WHICH HAS HAPPENED TO MOST OF THE CLANS) and then wasting their time.

Plus the league seemed to have stalled.

If I had said nothing about withdrawing on this forum, you wouldn't even care. lol. the league had already stalled, and it looks like the best 4 teams will be the only ones continuing. Thus, our withdrawal had no impact what so ever, yet your using us as a scapegoat for half the clans.

Of course we could probably continue like some other clans and just grab some sluts to help us out but this was against the rules.

I dont c anyone crying about FF withdrawing.

its kinder gay to get best4 now
coz we only vsed gud teams (in my opinion) so far and lost ALL games rofl, oh except NZA they ff,
i want some more games even though we hardly have chance to make to Best4

although im not sure how we should deal about teams that have pulled out.
would b hard to calculate points etc
coz if u just make em default win...
its gonna benefit some teams...
gud example is Free win from FF

im not sure if i made myself clear or not
but hope u understand what i mean lol

Well yes teams who haven't play ff getting a free win is somewhat a unfair advantage imo, however according to stankeys and others previous logic regarding tie breakers for default wins, if we didnt give the free win it would be punishing the teams who havent played.

E.g. team xyz < ff.
but since ff dropped out, xyz gets a free win, this is unfair cause doa gets 0-2 whilst xyz gets 2-0.

but dropping out of league should be the equivelant of defaulting all remaining rounds, not removal from system or its even more unfair to those who have played their games and won

Get a clue you douchebag, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with my logic on the SCORE of a defaulted game. Notice the SCORE, not the RESULT.

This is to do with what should happen, not when a team defaults, but when a team actually withdraws completely from the competition. This has no relevance whatsoever to the "so called tie-breaker score" in a standard defolted game.

Holy shit its like explaining something to a brick wall that can write essays.

Stankey ftw, I once said talking to him was like teaching maths to a brick. Looks like I'm not the only one that thinks that he's about the equivalent of something bricky.